The Discourse

Erika Barootes and Cheryl Oates are seasoned political insiders from opposite sides of the aisle — and they’re not afraid to disagree. The Discourse is your backstage pass to the biggest issues in Canadian politics, featuring sharp takes, real talk, and unexpected common ground. It’s proof that politics doesn’t have to be a shouting match — it can be a damn good conversation.
Podcast Description
Erika Barootes and Cheryl Oates are seasoned political insiders from opposite sides of the aisle — and they’re not afraid to disagree. The Discourse is your backstage pass to the biggest issues in Canadian politics, featuring sharp takes, real talk, and unexpected common ground. It’s proof that politics doesn’t have to be a shouting match — it can be a damn good conversation.
Episodes
Episodes



May 15, 2025
May 15, 2025
45 min
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika go deeper into the wildfire of Western alienation that's setting inboxes, headlines, and political panels ablaze. With new separatist parties gaining steam and Danielle Smith refusing to pick a side, the Premier may be running out of room to maneuver—and that could be big trouble for the UCP come election time.
The hosts break down:
Why Alberta’s political culture is uniquely flammable—and why Danielle Smith keeps adding fuel.
How a new federal cabinet and a looming by-election are turning up the heat on Premier Smith to finally pick a side.
What the Saskatchewan NDP is doing right by reframing the separation debate—and why Alberta’s NDP should take notes.
How government chaos inside the Alberta legislature is being buried by chaos outside it, and what consequential bills are slipping through the cracks.
Plus: deputy minister shuffles, federal cabinet reactions, and a very honest trip down memory lane on the 10-year anniversary of Alberta’s NDP win.
If you’re trying to keep up with the current pace of Alberta politics… good luck. But start here.



May 8, 2025
May 8, 2025
53 min
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika wade into the political firestorm Premier Danielle Smith kicked off with her live address on Alberta’s sovereignty. Cheryl opens with a scathing monologue on why Smith’s refusal to outright reject separation has real consequences — politically, economically, and reputationally. Erika counters that Smith’s move is about getting ahead of grassroots frustration, not fuelling separatism. Sparks fly as they unpack what it means to lower the referendum threshold, who’s really behind the push for independence, and whether Smith is preserving democracy or playing footsie with Take Back Alberta.
From there, your hosts tackle:
Whether Alberta’s “Fair Deal 2.0” will be an actual educational tool — or just more grievance theatre.
Naheed Nenshi’s fiery “just do it” dare to Smith, and why Cheryl thinks it’s playing with fire.
The Carney-Trump Oval Office meeting: why both hosts were (cautiously) impressed.
Smith vs. Ford: two premiers, two very different tones on working with Prime Minister Carney.
What the Alberta NDP’s new federal opt-out means — and whether 89% is really a strong number for Nenshi.
And a preview of three coming by-elections in Alberta: what each party’s strategy might be, and whether the UCP will continue to drag out the timeline for Nenshi’s seat.
Listen now for a fiery debate on democracy, discontent, and the future of Alberta.



Apr 30, 2025
The Election That Everyone Lost
Apr 30, 2025
Apr 30, 2025
49 min
Canada has spoken… kind of. The Liberals are back with a minority, the Conservatives won the West but lost the race, and the NDP? Well, Jagmeet Singh lost his seat and resigned.
This week, Cheryl and Erika are unfiltered, exhausted, and deeply in their feels. They dig into:
Why this was an election where every party lost something
Poilievre’s future: is he safe from the Conservative firing squad?
How the NDP holds the balance of power despite a devastating loss
The East-West divide: is Canada more fractured than ever?
What Danielle Smith’s post-election statement reveals about her strategy
Why separatist talk in Alberta is growing louder—and riskier
Plus: the subtle power moves behind leadership speculation, the role of advance votes, and what Mark Carney must do in his first 90 days to calm the country down.
This is the episode where no one gets spared—except maybe Donald Trump, who might be the only person grinning at the results.



Apr 24, 2025
If Carney Wins, Does Smith Drop the Writ?
Apr 24, 2025
Apr 24, 2025
42 min
The last week of the federal campaign is anything but sleepy—Cheryl and Erika go full tilt on everything from budget bombs to Alberta bombshells.
👀 Danielle Smith is absolutely thinking about an early election. We break down the signs, the strategy, and why a 2026 Alberta vote could be coming faster than anyone’s ready for.
Also in this episode:
💰 Carney drops a banker’s budget— billions more than Trudeau. Is it bold leadership or the most expensive rebrand in Canadian politics?
✂️ Poilievre’s promises: fiscal fantasy or ruthless efficiency?
🧃 Jagmeet’s debate strategy—was he heckling or auditioning for Question Period?
💔 Alberta separatism gets airtime again—why Danielle won’t kill the idea, and how it’s all tied to her next big political move.
😶🌫️ Where is Naheed Nenshi? And is silence a strategy?
💥 This one’s for the politics nerds, the Alberta watchers, and anyone wondering if the next campaign is already quietly underway.



Apr 15, 2025
Apr 15, 2025
50 min
It’s federal debate week, so we’re taking you inside the room where it happens — no, not the stage — the prep room.
This week, Cheryl and Erika trade war stories from decades of political debate prep, sharing what really goes into those make-or-break moments on the campaign trail. From binders and body language to one-liners and last-minute nerves, we unpack how leaders get ready, what success actually looks like, and why sometimes it’s not what you say — it’s how you look when someone else is saying it.
In this episode:
🎯 What campaigns really want from a debate
🧠 Debate prep secrets: sparring partners, mantras, and muscle memory
📉 Debate disasters and the iconic “Math is hard” moment
📈 What’s at stake for Carney, Poilievre, and Singh
📸 Why the first 15 minutes matter most — and how “debate face” can make or break you
🧥 Rachel vs. Danielle: was the matching blue suit a coincidence or a psych-out?
Plus: Cheryl admits to rolling her eyes at Danielle Smith’s 2023 closer (only to admit it worked), Erika confesses to smuggling Jameson into the green room, and both hosts reveal the high-pressure coaching strategies that shape how Canada’s political leaders show up on stage.
🎧 Whether you’re a debate junkie or a casual voter, this is your backstage pass to the most-watched hour in any campaign.
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Apr 9, 2025
Alberta’s In Play—and Every Party Knows It
Apr 9, 2025
Apr 9, 2025
54 min
What do you get when you mix a 15,000-person rally, a Boilermaker endorsement, and Mark Carney forgetting the price of strawberries? A pre-debate episode of The Discourse that does not hold back.
This week, Erika and Cheryl throw down over:
🚨 The actual impact of those massive Conservative rallies—crowd size vs. door-knocking power.
🧠 The battle of brains and branding: Is Carney just Pierre with better cufflinks?
🔄 Spousal optics—are campaign kisses strategy, sincerity, or just Pierre cosplay?
🔥 The rise of strategic voting: Should Jagmeet worry? Should Trudeau be thanking him?
📉 Whether Alberta’s love affair with the CPC is officially on a break (again).
🇨🇦 And of course… the Team Canada unity tour, where everyone gets a participation ribbon—unless you're Danielle Smith or Doug Ford.
The debate is coming. Voters are shifting. Stakes are spiking. And your favourite partisan pals are here to make sense of it all—with shade, sass, and semi-respectful disagreement.
🎧 Listen in and lock in your vote—or at least your talking points.



Apr 3, 2025
Apr 3, 2025
44 min
Liberation Day has come and gone, but we’re still drowning in uncertainty. Every hour brings new twists, and today’s no exception. We break down what President Trump said and what it means for the federal election.
Meanwhile, Danielle Smith’s No F**s Given* Tour takes Florida by storm—she won’t be silenced, but will her trip to see Ben Shapiro shake things up back home?
And speaking of silence… is this the beginning of the end for Jagmeet Singh? Could the NDP vanish from Parliament before April is over?



Mar 27, 2025
Mar 27, 2025
52 min
In this gripping episode (Erika apologizes for her lack of voice), we delve into the heart of Canada's 2025 federal election, where Mark Carney's Liberals are surging ahead but face stiff competition from Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives. The campaign is dominated by concerns over Donald Trump's tariffs and threats to Canadian sovereignty, shifting the focus to which party can best navigate these challenges. We explore the latest poll numbers and are joined by Jason Krips, CEO of the Alberta Forest Products Association, who discusses the impact of U.S. tariffs on the forestry industry. Don't worry, the "Allegations" and new statement of defense make the episode, as does Premier Smith's overtaking the airwaves this week.








